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DaveBlakeman
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Can anyone provide me with a tracing of an adapter that adapts A833 to Chrysler hemi ? I will pay for it .
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on: Fri 18 of Dec, 2020 [02:51 UTC] reads: 1906

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DaveBlakeman
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on: Fri 26 of Feb, 2021 [14:56 UTC] score: 0.00
The problem is none of the adapters have a place to bolt the starter .My bellhousing is a Lakewood shatterproof and it does not have anywhere to bolt a starter. Still confused

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hemihotrod
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on: Thu 25 of Feb, 2021 [18:18 UTC] score: 0.00
Used the adapter kit from Wilcap....They even included the hemi flywheel that bolts in like the original flywheels with 7/16th bolts....Uses the latemodel starter because those bolt to the bell housing which is a small block bellhousing...Had no issues with it...Run a 10.5 Mcleod duel disk clutch...A well desined kit....

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Jack
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on: Tue 23 of Feb, 2021 [15:38 UTC] score: 0.00
I've been driving mine for several years now and I don't recall having any particular starter problems. They use the starter from the small block.
I do remember having to spend some time finding the dust cover parts.
Both cars are turn key and have been for years.
Have fun, these are a lot of fun at the shows as everybody likes them.

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on: Tue 23 of Feb, 2021 [13:29 UTC] score: 0.00
> Can anyone provide me with a tracing of an adapter that adapts A833 to Chrysler hemi ? I will pay for it.

Hey Dave,

You may have already seen this YouTube series already.

https://youtu.be/3s9ka42uubU

It is a step-by-step on HOW TO ADAPT ANY ENGINE TO ANY TRANSMISSION. It is really good... describes and clearly explains each technique required to machine your own adapters with very basic machine tools. Probably need to have a mill and a band saw at the minimum. You mention that you have a machine shop so I suspect you have those tools and the Know-how to use them.

It's an interesting video with a lot of tips and techniques that transfer well to other hot rodding fab projects as well.

I hear ya Dave. Fabbing parts yourself is a very satisfying exercise. Throwing money at problems has become the new normal in Hot Rodding and I'll admit, it does save a lot of time (I'm not sure it always saves money.) But is it essence of true "Rodding"?? Each person has their own desire and skill levels, money, and free time limits, so one man's justification may not be the same as the next. Good luck Dave!

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Jack
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on: Mon 22 of Feb, 2021 [16:28 UTC] score: 0.00
I have two cars that I run the A833 in.
Get a TR Waters kit and be done with it.
You say that you would be willing to pay for a tracing, and then spend the time to make your own.
But why when this stuff is available?
You will need a small block bellhousing and a flywheel from a 426 Hemi as well a the clutch assy. and the tranny.
Be aware that you need the correct bellhousing for the tranny. The A833s may have different sized front bearing covers..

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DaveBlakeman
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on: Mon 22 of Feb, 2021 [19:23 UTC] score: 0.00
There are plenty of parts I can buy that I prefer to make myself.

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DaveBlakeman
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on: Mon 22 of Feb, 2021 [19:21 UTC] score: 0.00
Why
to save money and to utilize the machine shop I have to fabricate something I need. The TR waters does not have provision for the starter and i have no idea where to bolt the starter with TR Waters adapter. I also found my 146 tooth flywheel does not fit into a small block bellhousing I have . Trying to run an A833 to Hemi.

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ron37
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on: Fri 15 of Jan, 2021 [20:54 UTC] score: 0.00
Well I talked to a guy who did what I did. He used copper tubing in the adapter and in the bellhousing. Then used a drill the size of the bolts. This is mainly to center up the plate and the housing. Then he did the heli-arc on the aluminum adapter to fill the grooves and then grind the area flat. He used the 3/4" thick ones. Next he did the bit with installing the half of an indexing pin and the welding rod in the bell housing indexing holes. Then he bolted the adapter to the bellhousing with nuts and bolts to imprint the adapter plate. The took it apart and started small and worked up in size on a drill press for the indexing pin holes. He said you may or may not need the crank adapter depending on which transmission you use, auto or manual. He also said that you may or may not have to grind / trim on the starter mount area depending on the flywheel location. Like I said before, it has been 10 to 15 years since I have done one. Just think about what you are doing and feel your way through it. I use the flywheels that I can use modern starters. This way, I can run down to the local yard or auto parts store, if it goes out. I actually have a bunch of adapters in the barn. I may even have one made up out there some place. Hope this helps.

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DaveBlakeman
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on: Sun 21 of Feb, 2021 [17:39 UTC] score: 0.00
So Ron this required no additional aluminum and was all done to a stock part ? The existing adapter ?

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ron37
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on: Wed 30 of Dec, 2020 [21:03 UTC] score: 0.00
It has been a while, like years. The newer small block Mopars are exactly the same bolt pattern as the old hemis. The difference is the indexing pin locations. If I can remember I installed copper wire crimp sleeves in the adapter plate. I used the 3/4 inch thick one. Then drilled the holes perfectly for the bolts to fit without wobbling. next I took a later bellhousing and did the same. I removed the bellhousing 1/2" indexing pins. I have several extras. I cut one in half so it would be flush with the hole opening. Then drilled an 1/8" hole centered in it. Then cut an 1/8" welding rod just long enough to stick out of the indexing pin maybe 1/8 to 3/16 of an inch and ground the end to a point.. Then stuck the pin in the indexing pin in the bellhousing. I had figured where the pin would hit the adapter and had fill welded the groove closed. Now I bolted the bellhousing though the adapter plate to engine block. This causes the pointy welding rods to indent the adapter plate. Then you use a small drill to make a pilot hole and the work up in size to the 1/2" hole. Then you can remove all the copper sleeves from the bolt holes and install full length indexing pins in the bellhousing. Next I buy a crank shaft adapter from Hot Heads with the proper size bushing to fit my transmission input shaft. I always use the 172 tooth flywheel, so any modern Mopar starter works. You can always change a 146 to 172 tooth. You can work on the starter mounting. Either shim or grind some off to get it to clear and also pull the gear into the flywheel. Like I say, it has been years. Anyway that is how I made my adapters. You may try it with out the HH adapter. The main idea it to shim the bolt holes to center everything. I have a bunch of adapters in the barn. Maybe I'll make a few on of these days.

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DaveBlakeman
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on: Mon 28 of Dec, 2020 [15:25 UTC] score: 0.00
How do you rework the stock adapter plate ?

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ron37
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on: Sat 26 of Dec, 2020 [18:47 UTC] score: 0.00
What exactly do you need? I use the regular bellhousing and rework the old factory adapter plate. Then use a Hotheads flywheel adapter. You have to make new holes for your indexing pins. If this is what your asking, I can tell you. If not, maybe I can still help, if I understand what information that you need


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